Saturday, March 1, 2014

NEW OVERTIME PROCEDURE STARTING NOW

Hi all,
      After much deliberation and approval from the Stake Leadership starting this Thursday was are tweaking  the overtime procedures.

1)      Each overtime period will start with possession  going to the team with the alternating possession arrow, carried over from the regulation time. (administered like half time)

2)      For the tournament  the second overtime will no longer be sudden death, we will continue to have a  series of 2 minute overtimes,  with possession going to the  team with the alternating possession arrow.  There will be 30 seconds between periods,  Each team gets only one  time out (two 30 sec.) per  period  until a  team  wins. Bonus, and fouls  carry over and  each team will  continue  shooting at the same basket  as  the second half.

For  an explanation for the rational for the change I am forwarding the message we sent to Mike Hornung  who is the Stake high councilman supervising Sports.


Hi Mike,
     I know this is unusual timing but  Nate , Scott and I and kind of Becky want to tweak the over time procedures.
 High school procedures  have 4 minute over times,with a jump ball starting each period. To save time, we changed it years ago to have a 2 minute overtime starting with a jump ball, than if necessary  a second overtime starting with a jump ball, and sudden death, first point wins. That works fine except in cases  like a game we played last year, double overtime we got the ball and our guy was fouled, it was a questionable call (of course the ref was right as always) now we get two no pressure (even if  we miss both  it is still a tie  game) uncontested free throws for the win. We won but both teams felt cheated, after a great  game, it was a cheap way to win.
   The problem with the jump ball is that a team with a tall center usually gets control of the jump so that team would start the game and  both overtime periods with possession, so the short team may never get possession in the entire overtime or could possibly have 3  fewer possessions  than the other team, Two in the truncated overtime.
    So we propose and want your approval  for the alternating possession to carry over to overtime, rather than a jump ball,  just treat it like half time with the team with the arrow getting the ball ,  a second overtime if necessary  would go to the other team, (assuming there were no jump balls during the first overtime period) thus both teams have an equal number of possessions plus or minus one.
     Second just for the tournament we eliminate the sudden death overtime, we just have a series of  two minute overtimes, starting with alternating possession until one team wins, this might add a few minutes to our night but in the tournament where a team is eliminated it just seems fairer,  we want to start these rules next Thursday.
   What do you think.
g



 Gary,
That is absolutely the right way to handle it. Thanks for the explanation. Implement as soon as you would like. 
Nice comment about the ref, ha ha. 

Mike

   

Friday, February 28, 2014

Week 8 schedule, Mar. 6 & 8, Note Sat. Morning time changes

week 8


Mar. 6 & 8, 2014










at Anoka
at St. Paul
at Minneapolis
6:30
xxxx
Ply/SC (ym)
And/Tonka (ym)
7:30
xxxx
Aka/NSP
EC/EP
8:30
xxxx
SV/TC1
Bloom/Bln
9:30
xxxx
YSA/Clk
Lnok/MG







Sat 9:30
xxxx


NPg/EC (ym)
Sat 8:30
xxxx


TC1/SV (ym)






byes   
MLk (ym) MG (ym) Aka (ym),Wlk(ym)


Men: SC,Mlk,Ply

Thursday, February 27, 2014

Week 7 update

 For the young men, Defending champion Andover is going to be really tested this year.
Minnetonka has great balance. Handles and great 3 point shooting, Plymouth and Shingle Creek  are very athletic  and balanced, maple Grove is a dark horse.

 For the men there is also great balance at the tops, defending champion, maple Grove is 6-0 however the have gone to overtime twice, Nd two other times the ball was in the Air for the win or tie.
     Follow this Maple Grove beat Shingle Creek by one point, Shingle Creek beat Lake Nokomis by one point, Shingle Creek beat TC1 by one point, this is setting up to be a fabulous tournament.
  This week will have several  big match ups.
   For the young men the committee's  top two picks  Andover and Tonka collide,  This could be a preview of the championship game.  Plymouth and Shingle Creek  also  meet, these two games could be a preview of the final 4.
     At 9:30 at  Crystal  a  the two teams who played in the championship  game last year square off. Lake Nokomis has lost  twice, once to Shingle Creek  but they were missing their center.  The committee thinks Maple Grove has the edge unless Lake Nokomis has all it's players, thus making them a slight favorite. Great  week of basketball.
   

Monday, February 17, 2014

MENS STANDINGS / RESULTS WEEK 5

MENS      
TEAM W L %
MAPLE GROVE 5 0 100%
LAKE NOKOMIS 4 1 80%
SHINGLE CREEK 4 1 80%
BLAINE 3 1 75%
TC1 3 1 75%
ANOKA 3 2 60%
CEDAR LAKE 1 1 50%
BLOOMINGTON 2 2 50%
MEDICINE LAKE 2 2 50%
NSP 2 3 40%
ELM CREEK 1 2 33%
YOUNG SINGLES 1 3 25%
EDEN PRAIRIE / WACONIA 1 3 25%
SHORE VIEW 1 4 20%
ST PAUL 0 2 0%
PLYMOUTH 0 4 0%

MENS SCHEDULE / WEEK 5
TEAM SCORE TEAM SCORE
SHINGLE CREEK 68 ANOKA 45
MAPLE GROVE 49 CEDAR LAKE 47
ELM CREEK 41 SHORE VIEW 28
TC1 75 NSP 55
BLAINE 63 YSA 40
LAKE NOKOMIS W MEDICINE LAKE L
EDEN PRAIRIE W PLYMOUTH L

YOUNG MENS STANDINGS / RESULTS WEEK 5



YOUNG MENS
TEAM W L %
MINNETONKA 3 0 100%
PLYMOUTH 3 0 100%
EDEN PRAIRIE 1 0 100%
MAPLE GROVE 4 1 80%
SHINGLE CREEK 3 2 60%
SHORE VIEW 3 2 60%
ANDOVER 3
1
75
ELM CREEK 2 2 50%
WEAVER LAKE 1 2 33%
MEDICINE LAKE 1 3 25%
NSP 0 1 0%
ANOKA 0 2 0%
NEW PRAGUE 0 2 0%
TC1 0 2 0%

YOUNG MENS SCHEDULE / WEEK 5
TEAM SCORE TEAM SCORE
MAPLE GROVE  69 ANOKA 22
SHINGLE CREEK 53 MEDICINE LAKE 39
ELM CREEK 52 SHORE VIEW 22
MINNETONKA W ANDOVER L
PLYMOUTH  W NEW PRAGUE L
WEAVER LAKE W TC1 L

Friday, February 14, 2014

Fyi

Just for your interest, I am glancing at Sid Hartman' s column today and see the Vikings signed linebacker Simoni Lawrence who played for the Gophers and is LDS. Simoni was a member of the Dinkytown ward and has played in the SAMS league. Simoni joins Matt Asiata, Fullback also a member.
g

Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Young Men's 2014 SAMS LDS basketball grid

*These are subject to change,  always  check the blog for last minute updates.
How this can be used.  If  you  know on a certain  date that your team cannot play you can use this and the contact list  to  tweak the schedule, say you can play at 7:30  but not 6:30  or  want to change locations you can now  do that. Let us know. For the men, if you want to swap referee assignments with the team you are playing you can now contact that teams representative and make a deal.





2014 SAMS LDS young Men's Basketball grid























MG SV EC And SC Tonka NPg Aka Ply WLk TC1 MLk. bye
Thur
MG xxx 10 2 4 1 9
5 7 3
6 8
Thur/Sat. S.V. 10 xxx 5 3 9 6 7 2 4 8
Thur/Sat.
EC 2 5 xxx 6 3 4 8 7
9 10

Thur Andover 4 3 6 xxx 2 5,     8 10 9 5 7
Thur/Sat.
S.C. 1 9 3 2 xxx
6 4 8 10 7 5
Thur/Sat. Tonka 9 6 4 5,     8     xxx 2 10 7
Sat.
NPg
7 8
6 2 xxx 3 5
9 10 4
Thurs Aka 5 2 7 10 4 3 xxx 6 9 8
Thur/Sat.
Ply 7

9 8 10 5
xxx 2 6 3 4
Thur WLk 3 4 9 5 7 6 2 xxx 5 8
Sat.
TC1
8 10
7
9
6 5 xxx 4
Thur/ Sat M Lk 6 7 5 10 9 3 4 xxx 8
bye 8 4 8 4 8 8 xxxx



Sunday, February 9, 2014

2014 SAMS LDS young men's basketball tournament

Here is the tentative (depending on the number of teams)  young men's  tournament.
More details pending.



Tentative men's basketball tournament

Here is the tentative tournament brackets for the men.  (depending on how many teams we have)
Note the top 4  teams get  two rounds of byes, five through nine  get one round of byes. The tournament  will be single elimination. More to come later.



For the basketball nerds, men's grid


 Here are the men's  grid  we use to for the schedule.  Go to the far left column read down until you find your team than read the row across and the number represents the week number representing the week those two teams play, the bottom row and far right  column represent the weeks the teams have byes.


*These are subject to change,  always  check the blog for last minute updates.
How this can be used.  If  you  know on a certain  date that your team cannot play you can use this and the contact list  to  tweak the schedule, say you can play at 7:30  but not 6:30  or  want to change locations you can now  do that. Let us know. For the men, if you want to swap referee assignments with the team you are playing you can now contact that teams representative and make a deal.



 




2014 SAMS LDS Men's  Basketball grid














xxx MG SV Aka SC NSP L.Nok TC1 YSA Bln M.lk. Ply  Clk E.P. Bloom EC BYE
MG xxx 13
3
1
4
8
10


2
6
7

5


9
11
12
SV 13 xxx 2 6 1 8 3 10 4 11 7 9 5 12
Anoka 3
2
xxx 5
8
11
13
1
12
10



9


7
4
6
SC 1 6 5 xxx 12 7 3     9,13 2 4 11 10 8
NSP 4
1
8
12
xxx

5
6
3
7
9

2


11
13
10
Lk. Nok 8 11 7 xxx 4 10 9 5 3 6    1,13 2 12
TC1 10
8
13 3
5
4
xxx

11
9



12
2
1
6
7
YSA 3 1     9,13 6 10 xxx 5 11 2 8 7 9    4,12
Blaine 2
10
12


3
9
11 5
xxx

13

1
6
8
7
4
Med Lk. 6 4 10 2 7 5 9 11 xxx 13 12 13 3 8
Ply 7
11


4
9
3


2
13

xxx

5
    6,10
12
8
Clk 5 7 9 11 2 6 12 8 1 13 xxx 10 4 3
E.P.

9






   1,13
2
7
6
12
5

10
xxx 3
8
   4,11
Bloom 9 7 11 2 1 8 13    6,10 4 3 xxx    5,12
EC 11
5
4
10
13


6
9
7
3
12



8


xxx 9
Bye 12 12 6 8 10 12 7 4 8 8 3 4    5,11 9 xxx

Friday, February 7, 2014

Building Address's

Building address's

Building address's 

 

(Minneapolis)

Minneapolis Stake Center
2801 Douglas Drive
Crystal, Mn

(Anoka)
Anoka Stake Center
4700 Edinbrook Terrace,
Brooklyn Park, Mn

(St.Paul)
St. Paul Stake Center
100 Silver Lake Road, NW
New Brighton, Mn, 55112